BULLETIN BOARD
THIS SECTION IS RESERVED FOR THE FOLLOWING:
#1. ADVERTISEMENTS
#2. MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
#3. TIPS REGARDING LOG HOUSES
#4. GENERAL INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM THE
MEMBERS
If you have something to sell or trade, please let us know. E-mail a description of the items you want to sell, THE PRICE, your phone number, your membership number, and your e-mail address.
Also, if you have any tips on ANYTHING (such as; log house building -- growing food -- fixing the car -- health -- surviving in this wonderful world -- etc.) then please send them to us. We will post them in this section.
This section will be up-dated periodically.
DISCLAIMER: We have been told that it is necessary for an Association such as ours to have a "disclaimer" statement. Apparently this is necessary because the "socio/legal" situation in America has become so perverted that almost everyone is in the process of being sued -- or suing someone. OK, we'll play that game. How's this for a "disclaimer":
The Log Home Builders Association Association of North America, and everyone who is associated with it (including Skip Ellsworth), recommends that you should disregard everything that is contained in this entire website. If you insist upon reading ANY of the material contained herein then you should totally ignore everything you read. We recommend that you do not buy or trade anything via this website. The Association further recommends that you should NOT follow any of the advice that is contained on this website without first consulting an attorney -- AND a medical doctor -- AND your mother.
A TIP REGARDING AUTO INSURANCE;
This contribution might help you solve the auto insurance problem -- if you can't afford the premiums. A direct quote (barring typographical errors ?) of TD-420-726 INSURANCE NOTICE (R/3/90), is as follows;
WASHINGTON STATE MOTOR VEHICLE OPERATOR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY. No person may operate a motor vehicle subject to registration by the laws of the State of Washington unless the person is insured under a motor vehicle liability police or bond; is self-insured as provided in RCW 46.29.630; or is covered by a certificate of deposit in conformance with RCW 46.29.550.
A motor vehicle liability policy or bond shall be not less than $25,000 because of bodily injury of death to one person and $50,000 because of bodily injury or death to two or more persons, and $10,000 or injury or destruction of property of others in any one accident.
A person must have more than 25 vehicles registered in their name to qualify for self-insurance.
A certificate of deposit requires a deposit of $60,000 in cash or securities with the state Treasurer.
FINE: A violation of this requirement constitutes a traffic infraction punishable by a fine of up to $475.00.
EXEMPTIONS: Operators of vehicles registered as an antique, horseless carriage, collector’s, state or publicly owned, motorcycle, motor-driven cycle, moped or vehicles registered with the Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission as common or contract carriers, are exempt from this liability insurance requirement. [Emphasis added.]
IDENTIFICATION CARD: Insurance companies issuing or renewing a motor vehicle liability policy or bond will provide the policy holder with identification cards verifying coverage. The identification card must be in the vehicle operator’s possession and available to any law enforcement officer upon demand. Any person knowingly providing false evidence of insurance, including an expired or canceled insurance policy or bond, is guilty of a misdemeanor.
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION: For additional information concerning this state law you may call the Department of Licensing, Driver Services Division at (206) 586-2638.
The person who sent the above information to us reports that the above law will allow anyone who owns a vehicle that is 30 years old (or older) to obtain a "collector plate" for a "one-time" cost of approximately $35.00. It is reported that no liability insurance will then be needed.
In other words, it is reported that once the "collector plate" is is secured to the rear of your car, no insurance is required for the car. Remember... you should check this out with the Department of Licensing, and your medical doctor, and your attorney, and your mother.
TO REITERATE; Regarding the above TIP, we recommend that you do the following;
1. Call the Department of Licensing, Driver Services Division -- at (206) 568-2638 -- and ask them to verify and explain the above information.
2. Discuss the above information with your attorney before acting upon it.
3. Drive carefully.
ADVERTISEMENTS
For additional information on any of the following ads please e-mail us at the following address < logs@loghomebuilders.org > and we will connect you with the appropriate people.
LOG BARNS FOR SALE -- 120 YEARS OLD -- CEDAR;
Delivered-To: loghouse@mozcom.com
From: Hummmerheaven@aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:16:35 EST
Subject: (no subject)
To: loghouse@premier1.net
X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows CA sub 12001
Would you know of any one interested in purchasing log barns ?I have 4 cedar barns ranging in size from 26 x 26 to 26 x 40 12 inches thick 120 years old.
Thanks
Bruno Oliviero
OttawaOntario Canada
Today's date is December 8, 2002.
We just asked Bruno if he wanted to include the information about his barns on this page. He responded as follows:
Yes .That would be great.
My name is Bruno Oliviero, phone # is 613-257-3962
and Ottawa Ontario is approximately where they are located. I would be asking $12,000 for all 4 barns.
Thanks again.
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SCAFFOLDING BRACKETS FOR SALE; (12)complete sets. $125. Duvall, Washington area. Welded triangle shaped brackets attach through log walls with all-thread rod (before house is chinked). Set your planks on two or more brackets which can easily be moved and can be set up with a plank on the inside or outside of the wall. These brackets have been used for at least 4 houses that I know of, and are not needed by me now that I am finished chinking. I paid $150 for the set. The angle iron used in the brackets has 3/4" holes on all surfaces for complete adjustment, with no need to drill any more holes. Includes all-thread rod.
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A WORK PARTY; A beautiful log home is currently being built in the Ellensburg area. Work parties will be getting together at the site primarily on Saturdays and Sundays. If you want to get some good experience (and have a lot of fun) please call us, and we will refer you to the builder for directions, etc. ONLY GRADUATES OF SKIP'S TWO DAY SEMINAR WILL BE WELCOME AT THE SITE.
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CHINA DIESEL GENERATORS A group of us have started negotiating with the American distributor of China Diesel electrical generators to buy several of them. It is hoped that if we negotiate to purchase several units at the same time, we can get a substantial price break. Four of us are involved so far. Anyone who is in the market for a generator for backup power for their home should contact us as soon as possible.
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MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
USING THE CRAWL SPACE.
Have you ever had to crawl around in the 18" crawl space under your house ? If so, then you know it can be pretty dark down there. At Skip's recommendation, a lot of our people are solving this problem by installing one or two electrical outlets in the crawl space at the time of construction. If these electrical outlets are installed when the house is being built, then they should only cost a couple of bucks each. The outlets can greatly assist you in having both lights and heat in your crawl space. In extremely cold weather you can wrap electrical heating tape around your water pipes, and have a convenient place to plug in the tape. Sometimes we even connect the outlets to switches upstairs, so the electrical heating tape can be turned on and/or off by a switch in the kitchen.
NAIL SIZES.
Nail sizes start at 2d ("d" is an abbreviation for "penny"). 2d is a two-penny size, which is 1" in length. They range up to 60d, which is 6" in length. The 2d through 10d are in ¼" increments, i.e. a 2d nail is 1" in length; 3d is 1 ¼" in length, etc. Nails above 16d increase by ½" increments.
ACHIEVING A THREE-PLY SHAKE ROOF.
When applying standard 24" shakes to a roof, the maximum recommended exposure (to the weather) of each shake is 10 inches. This recommendation, of course, is for roofs where the slope, or "pitch" is sufficient to insure good drainage.
However, a "standard" 10-inch exposure (with 24-inch shakes) will only result in a two-ply roof.
For a relatively small additional cost it is possible to apply a MUCH BETTER shake roof by reducing the exposed area of each shake – changing it from 10 inches to 7 ½ inches.
By reducing the exposure to 7 ½ inches, an extra layer of shakes is applied to the roof. In other words, THIS RESULTS IN A THREE PLY ROOF -- WHICH IS MUCH BETTER THAN THE TWO PLY ROOF.
[It is surprising that many people do not know this.]
LODGEPOLE PINE.
This tree has two forms – the coast form (shore pine), and the mountain form (lodgepole). The mountain form is valuable commercially for lumber, poles, and pulpwood, while shore pine is generally too small and malformed for commercial use although it has been cut locally.
Both of these forms are being developed for Christmas trees.
The mountain form is noted for forming dense, pure stands after being logged or burned.
DOUGLAS FIR.
Douglas-fir, also known as red fir, yellow fir, and Oregon pine, is the most important tree in the West. It is also the most important lumber species in the United States, and it is used for cross-ties, piling, plywood, fuel, and Christmas trees.
There are two distinct forms of Douglas-fir. The coast form is larger, with trees up to 300 feet tall and 6'’in diameter. It is one of the fastest growing species in the United States. It grows in the Pacific slope forest often in extensive pure stands. The mountain form is an inland tree, found at higher elevations and grows only moderately fast at best. At maturity, trees will be up to 130’ tall, and 3 feet in diameter.
WESTERN RED CEDAR.
Western red cedar is one of the important species in the Pacific Northwest and reaches its greatest size near the coast.
Practically all of the wooden shakes and shingles made in the United States are made of western red cedar. It is also used extensively for poles, fence posts, boat building, interior surfaces, and lumber. Wood of this tree resists decay very well.
Not only is western red cedar a valuable wood, but the tree itself is a highly prized ornamental. Butt-rot is common, even at fairly young ages.
MEMBERSHIP DECALS FOR OUR VEHICLES;
One of the members recently suggested that the Association should have membership decals for car windows. A decal on the back window would certainly help members identify each other while "one the road," at camping and fishing places, etc. Perhaps members would enjoy meeting each other in this way because we all have so many things in common. With the decals triggering communication, members could keep each other better informed of coming events, latest information regarding building codes, newsletters, journals, etc. Decals would undoubtedly facilitate communication between log house builders, and thereby supplement what the Web-site is doing. If we get some positive feedback on this, then we will proceed to make the arrangements for decals. Do you have any ideas for designs ?
SPEAKING OF SMALL TOWNS…
Skip’s previous ranch was in Redmond, Washington. This was many years before Redmond became the fastest growing city in America. It was before freeways, before shopping centers, before the arrival of the Microsoft Campus, and before almost anything. It was probably even before "McDonald's".
Bob Johnson says,
"In those days, Skip was the most well-known guy in Redmond. Everybody who worked at the Post Office knew who he was, and they often delivered mail to him that was addressed in a "marginal" way. Here are some envelopes (letters) that Skip received when he was living in Redmond -- that were addressed as follows;
Skip
Redmond, Washington
To the guy who teaches log house building
on the same road as the trout farm
Redmond, Wash.Log House Instructor
Redmond, Wash.To the log house man
Redmond, Washington
Apparently, a lot of that stuff (unusual curios from the past) was kept "for the archives" when Skip moved to the Monroe location many years ago.
A TIP REGARDING FREEDOM;
There are very few Organizations that are doing ANYTHING to protect your freedom here in America. One of the best of these Organizations is the ACLU. We highly recommended that you check out their web-site, at <"http://www.aclu.org/">.
Don’t wait until it’s too late.
A TIP REGARDING LIFE ITSELF;
My dear old mother used to say;
"If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got."
In other words, if you are happy with your job at Boeing, AND your thirty year mortgage, then you should continue doing exactly what you are already doing with your life.
However, if you want to get some FREEDOM in your life, then you should explore the socio-economic opportunities that log homes can provide.
A lot of people are making a LOT of money building log homes.
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CLASS DIVERSITY
A recent note from Skip contained the following paragraphs;
"In each class, I like to have students that come from many diverse backgrounds, because then I get questions from many different levels (from people who have "no construction experience at all" -- and from people who have "years and years of experience"). In other words, at one end of the spectrum I like to have a contractor, an engineer, a carpenter, and a plumber – and at the other end of the spectrum I also like to have four little old ladies who have never even driven a nail. This enables me to play off of the questions more effectively – and have more fun with it. It forces me to answer the "little old lady" questions in a way that won’t "bore" the engineer – and it forces me to answer the engineer’s questions in a way that the little old lady can understand. "
"I must answer the little old lady’s questions in a way that won’t "frighten" her (with a lot of technical stuff, or physical stuff) – and in a way that will at least be "amusing" to the professionals. "
"I especially like it when there are LOTS of students in a class, because then I get questions fired at me in rapid succession – from all sides. What a rush. It really gets me "up" for it, and it brings out the best in me as a teacher. It’s almost like fighting three or four guys at the same time."
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